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What do you think is the best solution to the Hawaiian rights issue?
The Akaka Bill should be passed to allow Native Hawaiians to have a form of sovereignty similar to that of Native Americans.
36%
Hawaii should secede from the United States and once again become a sovereign nation.
14%
There should be no recognition of Hawaiian rights separate from the rights of any other United States citizens.
37%
None of the above; some other solution must be found.
13%
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| ypovly | |
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05-10-08 5:31 PM
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First of all I am "kanaka maoli". Secondly we need to reprogram our thoughts and get educated. The answers are in front of us. There is no "kauna" anymore. We can finally put our "palapala" where our mouth is and get back on our "aina". It can be done, it has been done, it is still doing, and it WILL continue to do so. Wake up Kanaka the time has come! Nothing will be handed to you on a silver platter but all you have to do is ask "how do I do this"? If not for yourself, for your keikis. Neva mind HHL. You can have that and more. And if you get sick you no need see your "kahuna" you can go hospital. FREE EDUCATION! FREE HEALTH! That was the deal. Not only for the "kanaka maoli" that can afford but for the displaced ones also. EACH and EVERY single one of us. Remember.......we are not Hawaiians, we are Kanaka.
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| KenConklin | |
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05-08-08 3:32 PM
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The poll is now finished. Looks like the good guys won. But it was a "squeaker" with a margin of only one percentage point. Those of us who favor unity and equality must continue our hard work, even in the face of this newspaper's hostility to our views. 'Onipa'a! Imua!
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| lsom2000 | |
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05-08-08 2:30 PM
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racism is the basis of all wars..hawaii needs recognization of its native rights religion lands and people..As of the indians, and eskimos, more involvement by the native population to be a part of the decision making process to protect the lands and its people as part of the kingdom is tantamount to the original monarch philosphy established before the hostile takeover..this takeover was where racism was identified as a weapon of war by the natives. Apology was the first step by the us..The kingdom needs its own representation separate from all other governing practices and traditions..Does the kingdom have an envoy or an ambassador? If one is created then hawaii would have a separate channel to address sovereignty establishment and recognization by the current us administration...
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| Kuri60 | |
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05-08-08 1:43 AM
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The U.S. Supreme Court is going to make a ruling on the Hawaii Ceded Land appeal on the decision by the Hawaii State Supreme Court. The decision will probably be based on the decision of May 16, 1910 by the U.S. Court of Claims on Liliuokalani v. United States that the former crown lands were always considered public lands belonging to the office of Monarchy under the Kindom of Hawaii, not the individual person, and the lands became public lands of the Republic of Hawaii once the Monarchy ceased to exist and that the public lands are held in trust by the State of Hawaii for the benefit of all citizens of Hawaii.
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| ChickenLittle | |
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05-07-08 2:01 PM
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Karen, I also think we need to educate our Hawaiian community on this issue as well. Many of my friends I grew up with think that their "rights" extend to ALL lands, including the lots currently owned by malahini. They dont realize its these lands held in trust is all thats on the table. As a Hawaiian, I do support a recognition, but I DO NOT supporting suceeding from the US. These lands in trust could be turned over to a Hawaiian government, if "one" could be formed, currently there is like 7. I could support and nation with a nation concept much like the American Indian. Many Hawaiians think this is a ticket to a free lunch and dont understand that if all lands were to be given over to a Hawaiian government, their lives would not really change. This new government wont be giving away its assets, although some could be sold to Hawaiians, but this again is not free.
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| KarenChun | |
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05-06-08 3:55 PM
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I believe if the posters here examined the agreements, they would not be advocating the dishonorable path of having the U.S. government repudiate legal treaties that it has signed.
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| KarenChun | |
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05-06-08 3:53 PM
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Folks, some of the malahini here don't know that there are vast tracks of land still held in trust that belong to the Hawaiian people. There are also legal treaties (for instance the agreement that supports Hawaiian Homes) that perhaps some of the posters here are not aware of. So when you say to just dump all the Hawaiian programs, etc. You are basically saying to dump the Hawaiian property rights -- not the rights to the land your house is built on but these tracks of land that are being administered by the State. There is a lot of misconception in the nonHawaiian community on this subject because people don't know about the treaties and lands that are under discussion.
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| Keaweiwi | |
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05-06-08 2:38 PM
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LOL!!! Maui"no"KaOI & Bozo--- Auwe, Ihepa haole's!...LOL! Now I get what makes your country and leaders so unloved/disrsepcted the world over.
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| MauiNoKaOi | |
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05-06-08 1:56 PM
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"Why shouldnt the Hawaiians get something???" You DID get something. You are not a Chinese or Japanese subject. You are a free American citizen who has all the resources in the world, but are squandering it on hatred and ignorance.
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| Nalani | |
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05-06-08 1:20 PM
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The non Hawaiian people have no aloha for the Hawaiin culture... They just take what they want from it and spit out the Hawaiians.....
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| Nalani | |
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05-06-08 1:18 PM
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Why shouldnt the Hawaiians get something??? The Native American indians are collecting big time....
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| BOZONEMESIS | |
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05-06-08 10:41 AM
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Why do the native Hawaiians (no matter how small the percentage might be) want what they could not defend, sold, or gave away in the past? The Hawaiians (originally Polynesians) stole the islands from someone else and I don't hear the losers who originally occupied the islands griping about THEIR land being stolen or bought unjustly. I seriously doubt that the Hawaiins bought the land from them; the Polynesians almost certainly took the land by force and killed off the losers. So let's just leave things as-is and let us not make one individual MORE EQUAL than anyone else since the most powerful and latest thief/buyer is now in charge, the U.S. government. 'Nuff of this BS...
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| MauiNoKaOi | |
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05-05-08 7:48 PM
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It just doesn't matter how much of a stink you make. Hawaii will always be the 50th state of the US. The DLNR will be polite with the idiots occupying the palace in HNL, but when we grow tired playing your game, it'll end.
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| Keaweiwi | |
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05-05-08 2:41 PM
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OK. Here's a simple way for people to understand the subject-matter. There is no such thing as"Free" ok! Tha's a haole thing! Hawaiians are not Native Americasns ok! and "Secede"...PLEASE! Who's gonna tell me that the majority of "native Hawaiians' wanted to be any part of the US in the first place? "Get over it and assimilate"....funny! Way the world is and the direction your great leaders are taking you, hope you feel the same way if you wake one morning soon and find China or Russia here in the islands telling you to "Get over it and assimilate."..LMOA!!!! Come see me, I'll give you comfort. What part of your own Constitution do you folks not get?
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| Voltaire | |
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05-05-08 12:53 PM
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Get over it and assimilate.
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| KEAHIoPualikaua | |
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05-04-08 8:42 PM
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THE BANANA STRONG IS STRONG ONLY BECAUSE IT SURROUNDS ITSELF WITH SUPPORT Let's not forget, that secession is simply a means, not an end to what we desire. The optimal outcome for each and all of us is to stand individually independently. However, are we ready to stand independently? Not simply standing in lines for free food. Not simply standing in lines for free land. Not simply standing in lines for free care. In other words, the resistance we each engage is to stand for each other in assistance, support, and protection of one another... EO. Another thought, "blood" (genealogy) is important to me, "blood" is important to Hawaiians. But, "blood" isn't what is important to all involved. There's a current mainstream thought which touts “blood” is about privilege.. for free land, free money, free education, etc. Not quite, rightly, "blood" is about responsibility, to your people, to your community, to your family, to yourself. (-continued
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| KEAHIoPualikaua | |
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05-04-08 8:40 PM
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Take care of the latter and the former takes care of itself. That is real sovereignty. It cannot be stolen. Keahi’s Pualikaua’s Polytechnic Polynesians
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| KEAHIoPualikaua | |
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05-04-08 8:35 PM
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HE MAI'A UA PA'A I KE KO'O !! Mai poina, 'a'ole ka 'oki ka hopena a kakou e makemake ai. 'O ka hopena pono no kakou pakahi apau, ke ku ho'okahi. Aka na'e, e makaukau anei kakou e ku ho'okahi? 'A'ole pono paha kakou pakahi apau e ku laina nei i ka mea 'ai manuahi. 'A'ole pono paha kakou pakahi apau e ku laina nei no ka 'aina manuahi. 'A'ole pono paha kakou pakahi apau e ku laina nei no ka mea pono apau... 'O ia ho'i, ke ku'e kakou no kakou apau... E ku pono kakou ia kakou iho me ke kokua, kako'o, kia'i i kekahi i kekahi... EO. Aia kekahi e a'e, nui ke koko no'u, nui ke koko no na Hawai'i. Aka, 'a'ole nui ke koko no kakou. 'o ka mana'o laha ma'a mau, 'o ia ke koko he kulana ki‘eki‘e wale, no ka ‘aina ho'opulupula, kala manuahi, kula manuahi, a pela aku. 'A'ole no, me ke koko Hawai'i he kuleana, no na Hawai'i, no kou kauhale, no kou ohana, nou ia 'oe iho. E malama ke kuleana a malama pono ana ‘ia ke kulana e ana ia ia iho.
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| KEAHIoPualikaua | |
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05-04-08 8:34 PM
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'O ia ke aupuni Hawai'i ku pono maoli me ka ho'okahi... ‘a’ole e aihue aku ‘ia… EO !! Keahi’s Pualikaua’s Polytechnic Polynesians
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| KEAHIoPualikaua | |
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05-04-08 8:33 PM
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HE MAI'A UA PA'A I KE KO'O !! Mai poina, 'a'ole ka 'oki ka hopena a kakou e makemake ai. 'O ka hopena pono no kakou pakahi apau, ke ku ho'okahi. Aka na'e, e makaukau anei kakou e ku ho'okahi? 'A'ole pono paha kakou pakahi apau e ku laina nei i ka mea 'ai manuahi. 'A'ole pono paha kakou pakahi apau e ku laina nei no ka 'aina manuahi. 'A'ole pono paha kakou pakahi apau e ku laina nei no ka mea pono apau... 'O ia ho'i, ke ku'e kakou no kakou apau... E ku pono kakou ia kakou iho me ke kokua, kako'o, kia'i i kekahi i kekahi... EO. Aia kekahi e a'e, nui ke koko no'u, nui ke koko no na Hawai'i. Aka, 'a'ole nui ke koko no kakou. 'o ka mana'o laha ma'a mau, 'o ia ke koko he kulana ki‘eki‘e wale, no ka ‘aina ho'opulupula, kala manuahi, kula manuahi, a pela aku. 'A'ole no, me ke koko Hawai'i he kuleana, no na Hawai'i, no kou kauhale, no kou ohana, nou ia 'oe iho. E malama ke kuleana a malama pono ana ‘ia ke kulana e ana ia ia iho. 'O ia ke aupuni Hawai'i ku pono ma
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| mooredog | |
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05-04-08 10:03 AM
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I'm not sure if there is a solution. I lived in Hawaii many years when young, went to school then worked on Maui. Oahu, and Molokai and although a haole had many Hawaiian friends. I now live on and work for and Indian reservation in their casino in Minnesota and see first hand how sovereignty has worked for them and other than the economic boost of the casino it isn't good. I had nothing but respect for the Hawaiians as a people and a culture but that is not the case for the Indians. They are an unbelievably downtrodden culture with overwhelmingly destitute personal lives . I don't have an answer but sovereign nation status for hawaiians is not it. Maybe an expansion on the Hawaiian Homes concept and education like the Kam schools. I don't know.
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| mauimom | |
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05-04-08 12:18 AM
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mr walsh - you talk about this like the "missionaries" probably talked to the hawaiians. the fact is these people came into these islands and decided that they would "better" the natives and "culturalize" them. I am not hawaiian, but i have children who are hawaiian, i am part american indian and as the "whites" came and took our land away they did the same thing to the hawaiians. it is time that the hawaiian people be given back their freedom to unite as a nation and say we are hawaiian and we are proud of it. all the legal mumbo jumbo is stupid, and it sounds like you are probably one of those types of people that would sue kamehameha schools to have your white baby go there. i am actually embarassed by what my european ancestors have done to the natives around the world. they have this superior mentality and you have once again been an example of this through your comment.
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| JamesKWalsh | |
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05-02-08 11:56 PM
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All the would be subjects of the "Kingdom of Hawaii" have to acknowledge that they are bound by all the acts of the sovereign. Kings and Queens did not submit to majority rule by their subjects. Prior to the end of the monarchy, they had authorized the sale of land. They sold, bartered and gave away the land left and right for lots of reasons both good and bad. Thereafter, those acquiring title began transfering title to others and the subjects of the monarch had no basis for complaint. Maybe their head would have been split open with a club if they did complain. Any land sale that took place before the end of the monarchy is not now subject to reclamation by any future "Hawaiian Kindgom". Where the title to land goes back before the overthrow of the monarchy, it was transferred with the consent of the former monarch(s) and those transfers were valid. The "Kingdom" has no valid claim to land sold with consent of its lawfully constituted leaders, p
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| duwekoolani2 | |
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05-02-08 5:26 PM
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One solution! GIVE US BACK OUR LAND! THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAS THE RIGHT TO THIS ISSUE IS THE HAWAIIANS. AND WE'RE NOT NATIVE AMERICAN.
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| MauiNoKaOi | |
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05-02-08 5:16 PM
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"Hawaii is the only State where the indigenous people have been overthrown and have not been compensated." That's what it all boils down to. MONEY. GREED. I WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE. You still have the nerve to call this "movement" Ho`oponopono?
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